Quote:"Modern archaeologists (especially the social and agricultural historians amongst them), may have some understanding of what was lost at Twyford Down (and to be honest it still is a truly painful subject for me to talk about).
However... those who understand that the colonisation of the major landmass areas of these islands only ever took place once in humanity's history* , should also understand that this "Rosy Cross" is a unique tabula rasa for agricultural scientists (because of its "quartered" nature), and as a result it's history represents one of the most complete and easily assimilable works of applied "astrologomal"** science imaginable (or at least it did -never try and teach maths without also teaching spacial awareness-).
Why it now may not be is because of the rape of Twyford. You see, back when the ice sheets first began to retreat and people started to colonise these Islands on a large scale the south of Britain was ipso facto colonised first (also re: "Flood"and planetary orientation***). This meant that places such as The New Forest, Hengistbury Head, Twyford Down and others were the very first to be used as social, religious and agricultural centres. As such this of-course makes them our oldest archaeological "seed libraries", without which; climate data, ecological relationships, social interactions, religion, biology and "astrologomy" cannot be studied .
*(Edit 12/07/10 at least in a modern "agricultural" sense -and I may be accused of something of the same myself given the slightly "ham-fisted" nature of this edit- as I am advised by the recent discovery of one million year old (approx.) flint tools belonging to Homo Antecessor in Britain. Go to http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/jul/07/first-humans-britain-stone-tools )" Go to: http://gkhales.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/whats-that-coming-over-hill.html
From the above the reader will have been given the impression that the agricultural transformation to which I refer occurred immediately following the initial colonisation of these islands however this is (from watching Mr.Oliver's programme), clearly not the case as the agricultural revolution of the Mesolithic hunter gatherers did not begin until (approx.) 5000-4500 BCE. However this does not mean that there was no evidence of the Mesolithic inhabitants of Southern Britain at Twyford Down or that evidence of the Neolithic agricultural revolution could not have been obtained had not the Down been needlessly (and thoughtlessly), destroyed. As Mr.Oliver himself has discovered the low lying areas which previously formed the link between The Isle of Wight and the mainland were inhabited in the early Neolithic period and (as I mention above), The New Forest contains numerous examples of early Neolithic religious worship/burial sites.
Quote: " "I've just seen "Time Team's" excellent "The Secrets of Stonehenge". I believe that there is much that notions of "Erotic" and "Thanotic" energy can reveal about the true nature of all "A.S.A.R.U""..."The Mesolithic/Neolithic eras of any of the regions on the planet which were habitable during these periods are a fascinating study but Britain (by which I also mean Brittany in N.W France), was a veritable "Cerridwen" ("cauldron" Brythonic/Modern Welsh), of activity at this time.
If we wish to understand the mindset of our ancestors in relation to the colonisation of Britain I believe that we must understand the geological events which preceded the final retreat of Britain's ice-sheets. To this end I again refer the reader to Peter Warlow's genuinely mind-bending book "The Reversing Earth" ( let's put it this way static conceptions get us nowhere ), and to the work of Adrian Gilbert co-author of "The Orion Mystery" and author of "The Holy Kingdom"; when you then include Michael Poynder's "PI in The Sky" and James Vogh's "The Thirteenth Sign" you should come to one realisation (amongst the myriad), which is that; when "ancient" (careful), man wrote anything down he did so for a reason, materials were too precious and skills too rare to waste on trivialities.
Par exemple oblique..
"Ancient man clearly attempted to build accurate circles, he made many brave attempts (of which Stonehenge is perhaps the best example), but he never quite managed it!"
(in other words "brave try grunty could do better 4/10!")
So..
"Harry"
"Yeah!"
"Come over here. and get hold of this."
(hands him pointed stick tied to length of rope or heavy twine)
"Right! Ron, you grab this."
(hands "Ron" the other end of the "rope" which is also tied to a pointed stick)
"Right, Ron you stick your end in the ground."
"O.K." Says Ron and does so.
"Harry, you walk away until the rope is taught and then walk around Ron's stick keeping the rope taught whilst scraping the pointed end of your stick in the ground as you do so!"
"Right!"
(after a few attempts they managed to draw a fairly accurate circle)*
*I mean Ron's stick was dislodged a few times before they got the knack and Harry's sobriety was always in question, but they persevered. "....and....
"You know I also have a sneaking suspicion that the "Cursus" at Stonehenge may well have truly been "dead-ground*". From "What's that Coming Over The Hill?"
*Also see esp. "Beth-Luis-Fearn" The "Brythonic" Tree Calendar at Imbolc" go to: http://gkhales.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/beth-luis-fearn-brethonic-tree-calendar.html
with regard to the significance of a cursus that describes the "Death of the Sun King".....
Furthermore Oliver suggests that Carnac was "the-final-throw-of-the-dice" of the hunter-gatherer community in N.W Europe, what does The Sacred Brythonic Architecture that followed on The British Isles therefore represent?
He does this at the same time as identifying the existence of, quote: "The largest tsunami the world has ever known" in the N.Sea basin (the consequence of a land-slide), yet he makes no connection between the sacred architecture and the "environmental experience" of the culture." Go to:"More Archaeological Obfuscation?" http://gkhales.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/more-archaelogical-obfuscation.html
The "environmental experience" to which I refer above is not simply that of one generation it includes the entire "racial memory" of the people and will (of-course), have included "The Flood" and many other cataclysmic events (dating back to the dawn of man itself). "Harry and Ron" had not only been exposed to these experiences (and the "mythical" tales which kept them alive throughout the generations), but also to the movements of the heavens on a nightly basis. It is the conceit of modern man who spends much of his time in-front of (what one of my history teachers used to refer to as), "the smelly telly" that he is only now able to divine the movements and purpose (that is if he thinks they have one), of the heavens. It is obvious (and explains much of the "amazing" archaeological evidence of the astronomical/astrological -"astrologomal"-, accuracy and precision of ancient cultures throughout The World), that clear skies, repeated observation and careful record keeping led "ancient" man to make many startling discoveries (both in mathmatics, medicine and environmental science -incl.agricultural science and "plant lore"-).
Also see: "The Antikythera Mechanism Research project" Go to: http://gkhales.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/the-antikythera-mechanism-research.html
I would also point out that the implications of the work of Michael Poynder R.I.P (and many others), and the spiritual and religious traditions of "The Old Religion" which remain extant in our culture (despite the centuries of persecution at the hands of those who have called themselves "Christian"), suggest that there are "good and solid" geological reasons for the placement of many (if not all), of the Neolithic sites in these islands which relate to the movement of water below the surface and the subtle conductivity of the rocks and minerals themselves. Go to :http://gkhales.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/blog-post.html
Quote: "The delicate relationship between the coastal areas of Britain and the sea was known by our forebears.
The Holy Isle of Arianrhod "Lady of the Lake" (now known as Glastonbury Tor), was surrounded by.. a lake before the monks drained the marshes
(and as we know "Puff the Magic Dragon lived by the sea" too...).
I am convinced that "The Great Dragon of Uffington"
represents a serious attempt by our ancestors to reconcile these forces."
Unlike the "White Horse" chalk figures the site at Uffington dates back to the Bronze Age when "The British" first learnt how to smelt tin and copper and turn them into a useable material (and also produce jewelry/religious artifacts-torcs etc-. and eventually coinage -?-). It is to my mind no coincidence whatsoever that our "dreams of dragons" ("Dreams of Dragons" is a book by by Lyall Watson -R.I.P, he was also author of "Supernature and "Supernature 2"-, go to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyall_Watson), should include the notion that it is the dragon that hoards and guards the treasure. Throughout the world dragons are also said to regulate the occurance of tsunamic activity quote: "Dragons and Fables
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"Recently, an earthquake occurred along the English Channel
coast, with its epicentre at Folkestone in Kent, at
8.28 a.m. (local time) on 28 April 2007. The local earthquake
magnitude was estimated by the British Geological Survey
as 4.2ML (Walker and Musson, 2007) and no discernable
affect was reported on the sea. However, worryingly, a local
news outlet reported that coastal residents on feeling the
tremor “started rushing out from their houses and on to the
beach for safety” (Kent News, 2007)! This highlights the
need to assess the threat from tsunami and associated hazards
in Britain and, if appropriate, raise public awareness of
the potential hazards."
from http://dyscovery.newport.ac.uk
According to "The Natural Hazards and Earth System Sciences Organisation" (go to.... http://www.nat-hazards-earth-syst-sci.net/8/587/2008/nhess-8-587-2008.pdf ), siesmic events either in or on either side of The Channel are historically far from rare!
"I tell you naught for your comfort, Yea naught for your desire, Save that the sky grows darker yet, And the sea rises higher." - GK Chesterton
"..a 2005 BBC2 Timewatch documentary which was postponed and re-edited after the Asian tsunami due to its sudden topicality. It documented how, out of a clear blue sky on 30th January 1607, nearly 600 km of the Devon, Somerset and Welsh coast was inundated by a wave of up to 7.5m (25ft). The ‘largest and most destructive flood in British history’ , it may have been caused by a tsunami deriving from an undersea quake, the wave reaching up to 14 miles inland (to the foot of Glastonbury Tor), leaving a temporary inland sea of over 200 square miles for ten days, and drowning around 2,000. For the benefit of sceptics, the academic study the documentary was based on pointed out a 1755 seaquake off Portugal had sent out a 15m (49ft) high tsunami that killed nearly 50,000. There has also been a claim a tsunami hit Dorset in 1868 – luckily the relatively deserted stretch of shore west of Portland."
from... http://www.msbnews.co.uk " Also from "More Archaeological Obfuscation".
If "The Dragon" of Uffington does represent "a serious attempt to reconcile these forces" one would expect there to be evidence of previous tsunamis generated by the fault concerned. Well perhaps there is in the legend of the "lost" land of Lyonesse, quote: "The legend of a sunken kingdom appears in both Cornish and Breton mythology. In Christian times it came to be viewed as a sort of Cornish Sodom and Gomorrah, an example of divine wrath provoked by unvirtuous living, although the parallels were limited in that Lyonesse remained in Cornish thought very much a mystical and mythical land, comparable to the role of Tir na nÓg in Irish mythology.[citation needed]
There is a Breton parallel in the tale of the Cité d'Ys, similarly drowned as a result of its debauchery with a single virtuous survivor escaping on a horse, in this case King Gradlon. The Welsh equivalent to Lyonesse and Ker Ys is Cantre'r Gwaelod, a legendary drowned kingdom in Cardigan Bay.
It is often suggested that the tale of Lyonesse represents an extraordinary survival of folk memory of the flooding of the Isles of Scilly and Mount's Bay near Penzance.[2] For example, the Cornish name of St Michael's Mount is Karrek Loos y'n Koos - literally, "the grey rock in the wood". Cornish people around Penzance still get occasional glimpses at extreme low water of a sunken forest in Mount's Bay, where petrified tree stumps become visible. The importance of the maintenance of this memory can be seen in that it came to be associated with the legendary British hero Arthur, although the date of its inundation is actually c.2500 BC." Go to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyonesse
..and as we know the loss of considerable areas of land from these islands following the retreat of the ice-sheets at the end of the last ice-age and subsequent geological movements and sea-level rises is becoming increasingly better understood and documented.
I invite comment from both The BBCs' Mr.Oliver and Channel4s' "Time team".
Nb.So far neither have responded.